Seriously? The survival of the human race is nonsense to you? You obviously have some fundamental misunderstandings of the effects of the space program and and economics. Money spent on the space program isn't dumped anywhere. It's still running around the US. Look up the TVA. A moon base is cheaper than all of our major expenditures. That's why I brought up the things we have wasted money on. I'm sure there are many connections you missed while you were determining that a lunar base was without value.
Revitalize doesn't mean cure all, so that criticism of yours seams to be bases in vocabulary issues.
"US can't even handle itself here, admist all the resources in the world." I don't even know what you mean by "handle itself."   See 27 other replies

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Half way. Yes. Can you tell which parts? I am against ivory and would yell at anyone in a tower constructed of such liberal or not. I do sometimes sweat in my sleep though. Really only in the summer though.
In answer to your question about Obama's policy I am mostly just familiar with him keeping illegal prisons open, and trying to deny admittance into the U.N. to Palestine, and sanctioning Iran for what they choose to do as a sovereign nation while we drop out of international agreements when it suits us, and regularly violating the borders of other countries with drones, and a general policy of wanton killing of brown people. I just can't get behind someone that holds people that haven't had a trial. Don't know why. I am a bigot that way. Like how republicans just hate gay marriage. I was just raised to be against keeping people in prison and signing bills to keep people in prison without trial. One day maybe I will change my ways and be more enlightened like you.   See 27 other replies

Okay, i'll give you that it may stimulate growth in one area of the economy, & it may encourage more advanced degrees in physics, maybe some engineering here & there,
but you're wrong when you say (or when said) that it'll "revitalize" the economy. It's not a cure-all idea.Even given that much, the only prospects on the moon are "fuel" i suppose for further exploration, & for "the survival of the human race". Both of which are pretty nonsensical. & I never said, nor did anyone else say, that we'd rather have wars or Bush's tax cuts. If
you're using that to further rationalized this, I don't really see the connection. Point being, it is not a priority. US can't even handle itself here, admist all the resources in the world. Jumping to the moon is just asking for a huge can to dump money into.   See 27 other replies

"It won't revitalize our economy, in fact it will costs ridiculous sums"I don't know how you reconcile those. How does spending ridiculous sums in one of the only areas left where US manufacturing dominates not going to revitalize the economy? It would definitely encourage private sector space development. Bigelow is just waiting for the transportation infrastructural to be there, and there are plenty of US companies developing spacecraft right now. Having a major project in space would be the greatest boon to US manufacturing since WWII.
The Apollo program was responsible for decades of economic benefits right up through the internet revolution of the Nineties. It all goes back to the smartest people in the country figuring out the lightest way to build a spacecraft.
Joe probably isn't assuming spacecraft can be made on the moon. He is probably one of the many people that knows spacecraft and fuel can be made on the moon. Look it up.
I don't understand how a project that enables the survival of the human race beyond the death inevitable death of the planet is "hardly worth doing at all." This project is more worthy than anything the US has ever done before. it's vastly better than any of the wars we have been in since 1812 and it certainly yields more benefit to society than the Bush tax cuts.   See 27 other replies

No? It won't revitalize our economy, in fact it will costs ridiculous sums, it won't "reposition our declining higher education", it MIGHT encourage private sector space development - but to what market?, and if beating China is the most important thing - how is that not manifest destiny? Also, when you say its cheaper to launch from there then here, you're assuming anything that can be made on earth can be made on the moon. How do you get materials to the moon without fighting our gravity? If you can actually build the spacecraft necessary to probe the solar system on the moon WITHOUT transporting tons of resources & personnel, then MAYBE its worth it when the economies doing really, really well. But it's definitely not a priority. Its hardly worth doing at all.   See 27 other replies