Jeff Quackenbush started a new discussion "Stellar-formation model burns out before it can get started"
The most fundamental detail, how the clouds can condense under gravity and overcome the stronger force of compressed-gas pressure, is not addressed in the video. Indeed, "the details of the process are not well-known," as stated in the presentation. Yet, these "best ideas" of stellar formation are presented to the public as fact, despite a mechanism for even starting the process being an elusive assumption.A leading guess at how gas cloud compression could happen with enough energy to overcome the forces resisting gas compression is a nearby supernova shock wave moving through a gas cloud. Setting aside for a moment the huge problem of the origin of the first star to make the first supernova-driven stellar formation possible, we face the problem of the vector of the compression wave.Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s National Ignition Facility could have saved us U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars by just grouping all 192 lasers on one side of the target to start nuclear fusion, supernova shock wave-style, instead of trying to focus and tune all the lasers to make the target sphere implode evenly. “Symmetrically compressing the capsule with radiation forms a central ‘hot spot’ where fusion processes set in – the plasma ignites and the compressed fuel burns before it can disassemble,” according to the facility website. The facility is pursuing ignition via an X-ray “oven” to heat the capsule evenly though indirectly, rather than targeting the capsule directly. The NIF’s ecognized need for a spherical capsule shape to focus inward forces and a container to keep compressed gas from escaping before implosion and ignition can take over should have informed promoters of the supernova-plus-gas-equals-star idea of fundamental flaws in it.





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