The Mary Tyler Moore Show: A Girl's Best Mother Is Not Her Friend

David's comment was chauvanistic.

But I do agree with Gret. I think Mary Tyler Moore is gorgeous but in Season 2 and 3 she looks like she lost a lot of weight and looks more unhealthy for her. I also say that from her hair. In the first season it was always perfectly colored and teased. In the 2nd one she looks like she lost herself a bit, bags under the eyes, much skinnier, and her hair was messier. Which I'm not saying as an insult, more as a concern. Like if she were my friend I'd be worried that she was going through hard times or something. See 5 other replies

David - I agree - growing up in the 1970s most everyone was this size. My daughter is very thin and has comments made about her size - we are becoming a supersized nation that is for sure. In the 70s you rarely saw a person who was "fat" and fat was if you were 10-15 pounds overweight. That being said, Mary does get too thin for her frame and height in season 2 into 3. It is like Valerie was on a diet and losing so she did?? But, did not need to. See 5 other replies

Mary admitted to being a closet alcoholic for years. I'm not sure if she was a heavy drinker during the taping of this show though. See 5 other replies

Well I think that Rhoda is skinny too, but look at Mary- she is way skinnier... Phyllis isn't even that skinny... or are Rhoda and Phyllis fat cows in your opinion?

I think it is very chauvinistic to assume that I think that "fat" is average just because I am a "female". See 5 other replies

By today's standards everybody would think that. Today, if your not fat, you must be anorexic or "too skinny". It's getting really ridiculous with the way the world is becoming. People see something in front of their eyes and without thinking they automatically take it as a "standard" without realizing what is supposed to be normal in the first place. It's a shame that society would think that being fat (or at least chubby) would be looked upon as average instead of the other way around.

She's just average skinny, that's all. From a man's point of view, I would say her body was perfect and any other female would love to have it. So, I guess we know why some females would find something wrong with her body, hehe. See 5 other replies

Is it just me or is Mary Too Skinny- she looks like she might have been anorexic??

Nancy Walker was a pro. "What do they do then ?.. tell you what don't bother..."
MTM does very little in this episode apart from looking great in a night dress. But that is to her credit. This must be one of the few examples of a star taking a back seat on her own show. All the funny lines are the Morgensterns. MTM is a great straight man here. But where would Oliver be without Stan (or vise versa). The dovetailing of performances from rhoda, mary and ida is poetry in motion.
"'..Rhoda, what i came out here to tell you was that he is absolutely perfect...for her."
"Mom...Finish driving me crazy before you start branching out..."
Either MTM (or producers perhaps) was insecure of her abilities or she possessed a rare generosity of spirit and no little foresight to recognize that the show was better when others took the limelight. Regardless, its a measure of this shows growth as it found its feet in season 2.

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Season:Episode	Title	Runtime	Air Date	User Rating	Queue
Season 3					All
24	Mary Richards and the Incredible...	25:34	03/03/1973
23	Put on a Happy Face	25:27	02/24/1973
22	Rememberance of Things Past	25:36	02/17/1973
21	Murray Faces Life	25:34	02/10/1973
20	What Do You Do When the Boss Say...	25:35	02/03/1973
19	Romeo and Mary	25:30	01/27/1973
18	The Georgette Story	25:37	01/20/1973
17	My Brother's Keeper	25:36	01/13/1973
16	Lou's Place	25:36	01/06/1973
15	The Courtship of Mary's Father's...	25:35	12/23/1972
14	Rhoda Morgenstern: Minneapolis t...	25:34	12/16/1972
13	Operation: Lou	25:35	12/09/1972
12	It Was a Fascination, I Know	25:34	12/02/1972
11	You've Got a Friend	25:35	11/25/1972
10	Have I Found a Guy For You	25:35	11/18/1972
9	Farmer Ted and the News	25:29	11/11/1972
8	But Seriously, Folks	25:36	11/04/1972
7	Just Around the Corner	25:37	10/28/1972
6	Rhoda the Beautiful	25:36	10/21/1972
5	It's Whether You Win or Lose	25:36	10/14/1972
4	Enter Rhoda's Parents	25:35	09/30/1972
3	Who's in Charge Here?	25:36	09/30/1972
2	What is Mary Richards Really Like?	25:31	09/23/1972
1	The Good-Time News	25:34	09/16/1972
Season 2					All
Season 1					All

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